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ivanjudebusgano wrote:

@sir duckduck,

On step 7, the mixture will yield a mud like juice and you need to separate it from the solids by straining it and that becomes the IMO which can be used to spray soil and plants. Dillute it with non-chlorinated water in 2tbsp : 1liter of water ratio.

big_smile on step 4, it means you have to bury your box/bamboo(with cooked rice inside) in forest floors, bamboo groves, rice paddies in order for us to collect the microorganisms inhabiting the soil. These microorgranisms will be attracted to the cooked rice and they will feed on it. Kumbaga, parang tinatrap nyo po sila.

Like this one...

http://balogo.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/img_0770.jpg?w=700&h=525

Thanks

Van

Naku, ang hirap naman palang gumawa ng IMO? Baka pagbalik namin sa forest, inubos na ng dagang gubat ang kanin sa loob. Hindi ba lokohan na ito... big_smile  Baka naman meron mas madali na paggawa ng IMO. he he he. 

May nabasa pa nga ako, tungkol sa pag stir ng mixture, dapat daw clockwise dahil pag counter-clockwise daw masama daw epekto sa magnetic forces of the earth at kung galit ka habang ginagawa ito ay papasok daw ang bad energy sa mixture... tutoo kaya mga ito?

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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@sir Duckduck,

Hehehe. So far, hndi p po namin naexperience na kainin ng daga ang rice sa loob kasi nilalagyan po namin ito ng chicken wire sa taas bago takpan ng mga dahon. Nabasa ko rin po ang post about the clockwise stirring movement pero hndi ko po na-apply. hehehe.

Thanks,

Van

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A practical way to culture IMO, lalo na kung taga urban area ka nakatira, is to get the dry leaves of bamboo and earthworm cast sa ilalim ng mga puno nito in an area na hindi contaminated with chemicals. You can bring the dry leaves and earthworm cast, say, sa likod ng bahay ninyo sa urban area at doon mo gawin ang culture (fermentation) o pagpapadami ng white mold using sterilized or hard boiled rice.

Siguraduhin mo lang na ang mga dry leaves of bamboo ay meron ng mga white mold even in small quantity, padadamihin mo na lang ang white mold in your house.

Kung ang application ng IMO is for palay growing, dayami ka magculture ng IMO, kung coconut tree naman paggagamitin ay sa ilalaim ng mga bunot or coconut husk, kung general purpose, ilalim ng kawayan, etc.

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ivanjudebusgano wrote:

Kuyang duckduck,

http://car.da.gov.ph/images/photo/techno/indigeneous.png

Yan po ang procedure sa pag gawa ng IMO (pure). Tama po ang sabi ni kuyang tholitz, umpisahan lang muna natin sa pag gawa ng IMO and to follow nalang ang mga variations ng IMO (1,2,3,4,5) which has their own  usage/application.

Tama po kayo sa sinabi nyo na ang rice hull = IPA.

http://maidon.pcarrd.dost.gov.ph/joomla/images/stories/wimg4.gif

big_smile

Thanks,

Van

Doon sa step 7 (as per Ivan), mud like juice, ito yung IMO 2 or pure culture of white mold + molasses as preservative/food.

If you dilute IMO 2 with water and spray it over the rice bran, ito yung IMO 3 (with addition of lactic acid bacteria serum from rice bran).

If you add/mix IMO 3 with top soil, ito yung IMO 4, by adding top soil you increase the population of beneficial microorganisms/mineral/enzymes.

If you mix IMO 4 with chicken dung or soiled DBS, ito yung IMO 5, you increase the nitrogen content of the basal fertilizer.

If you mix IMO 5 with carbonized rice hull, ito yung IMO 6, you increase the porosity or holding capacity for water. IMO 6 is the final product of fermentation which is more or less equivalent to basal fertilizer that has proper balance of carbon (rice bran, FPJ + top soil) and nitrogen (chicken dung or soiled DBS, FKuhol, lactic acid).

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ivanjudebusgano wrote:

@sir duckduck,

On step 7, the mixture will yield a mud like juice and you need to separate it from the solids by straining it and that becomes the IMO which can be used to spray soil and plants. Dillute it with non-chlorinated water in 2tbsp : 1liter of water ratio.

big_smile on step 4, it means you have to bury your box/bamboo(with cooked rice inside) in forest floors, bamboo groves, rice paddies in order for us to collect the microorganisms inhabiting the soil. These microorgranisms will be attracted to the cooked rice and they will feed on it. Kumbaga, parang tinatrap nyo po sila.

Thanks Ivan for explaining step 4 (he he he) and Sir Wintuha for identifying the mud like juice as the IMO2 and further explanations on the IMO3 thru IMO6.

This is probably my last question on this lesson about IMO:  On step 7, the mud like juice is the IMO. It was the result after separating it from the solids through straining.  After separating the IMO from the solids, do we just throw away the solids? Or do the solids still have some other uses?

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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Kuyang Duckduck,

Sa amin po, hindi namin tinatapon ang solids. Hinahalo po namin ito sa feeds ng manok o di kaya hinahalo namin sa vermiculture substrate. Sayang naman po kasi. hehehe. Perhaps we can ask sir wintuha for his input on this one.

Thanks

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ivanjudebusgano wrote:

Kuyang Duckduck,

Sa amin po, hindi namin tinatapon ang solids. Hinahalo po namin ito sa feeds ng manok o di kaya hinahalo namin sa vermiculture substrate. Sayang naman po kasi. hehehe. Perhaps we can ask sir wintuha for his input on this one.

Thanks

Ang solid ay ginagamit ko sa basal fertilizer. Actually ang practice ko hindi ko inihihiwalay ang liquid from solid dahil ang primary application is for basal fertilizer making. Mas maganda nga yung meron mga solid particles na inihahalo sa ibang ingredients ng organic fertilizer, the microbes present in the solid particles will further multiply. After fermentation period, try to observe that in the mixture there are certain white mold that is like a small root or sinulid na pantahi sa damit.

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sir duck
  nice pic..pwde po bng p email sa akin ung plan,wala po kasi akong idea.new plng ako mgstart nito.

thanks po

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Mga Kuyang,

Baka puede po kompletuhin na natin ang mga procedures dito sa thread.

Ano po ang gamit at papano ang paggawa ng OHN (oriental herb nutrients?), CALP (???) at LAB (???), FAA (fermented kuhol??).

Narito po ako sa Guam and even in small quantities, I'll try to make all the concoctions posted here to have  "hands on" experience in their preparations and do some testings.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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neggaslash wrote:

sir duck
  nice pic..pwde po bng p email sa akin ung plan,wala po kasi akong idea.new plng ako mgstart nito.

thanks po

Sir neggaslash,  I've already answered your email.  Suggested that you read more on this thread and also the thread of "Tarlac Hog Raisers Forum" and just copy and paste the pics that you see into your desktop.  Also copy and paste all pertinent postings to your situation so that you will have a ready reference for your own use. 

By doing the above, You will learn more that way. 

Thanks,
Tony

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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Mga Kuyang,

Baka makatulong po ito.

http://car.da.gov.ph/images/photo/techno/swine_production.png

http://car.da.gov.ph/images/photo/techno/poultry_farming.png

http://car.da.gov.ph/images/photo/techno/indigeneous.png

http://car.da.gov.ph/images/photo/techno/fpj.png

http://car.da.gov.ph/images/photo/techno/ffj.png

http://car.da.gov.ph/images/photo/techno/fish_acid.png

http://car.da.gov.ph/images/photo/techno/lactic_acid.png

http://car.da.gov.ph/images/photo/techno/ohn.png

http://car.da.gov.ph/images/photo/techno/natural_attractant.png

http://car.da.gov.ph/images/photo/techno/imo.png

Thanks

Van

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Van,

Malaking bagay ito sa mga beginners at sa mga may gusto magpractice ng Nature Farming.

As what Mr. Andrey Lim have told us during the seminar, those who were able to learn and practice "Nature Farming" are encourage to disseminate lessons learned to others.

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@ sir van at sa lahat na lagi nagpopost dito,
sir D at iba pa,
salamat sa mga posts nyo.

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Sir Van/Sir Wintuha,

Malaking bagay nga ang mga pics/procedures tungkol sa natural farming methods, lalo na sa mga beginners at mga walang opportunity to attend seminars.

Ito po ang mga tanong ko sa recently posted pics/procedures ni Sir Van:

1.    Sa natural poultry farming step 1…what is meant by “broken rice”? Also what is meant by “FFP” that will be mixed with rice bran mixture?

2.    Sa natural poultry farming step 2…what is the liquid to be added to the rice bran?

3.    Sa natural poultry farming step 4…what is the ratio of mixing of the result of step3 to the soil?  Is the soil to be used pertains to any kind of soil in the farm?  Why mix with soil? Is it a required ingredient in making feeds to be given to poultry?  Can it also be given to pigs?

4.    Sa FAA (fish amino acids) There were 3 kinds of materials discussed to be used namely, fish, kuhol/eggs, animal bones…..Can all 3 be mixed together in making the concoction or each one of them be used in their respective concoctions.  Also why spray only to the soil and not to the leaves of the plants?

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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thank

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kudos to you kuyang van for posting these images...

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@sir wintuha,

Tama po sir. Natural farming is easy, economical, and more importantly, it maintains the balance in our ecosystem. Masarap din po sa pakiramdam na makatulong kahit sa mga ganitong paraan lang lalo na sa mga kaibigan nating farmers na hirap na hirap sa pagsasaka gawa ng commercialization.

@sir wagner72 / hhardller / ronski

You are always welcome sir. Tayo tayo lang din naman po ang magtutulungan eh. hehehe.

@sir duckduck

Basically, sa seminars ni Doc. Andry, yan ung mga primary topics/modules.

Q: Sa natural poultry farming step 1…what is meant by “broken rice”?
A: Broken rice = binlid / binlud / rice grits / durog na piraso ng mga giniling na bigas.

Q: Also what is meant by “FFP” that will be mixed with rice bran mixture?
A: I thinks it's a typo error. It should be FFJ/FPJ sludge.

Q: Sa natural poultry farming step 2…what is the liquid to be added to the rice bran?
A: Step 2 is the detailed explanation of step 1, the liquid is FFJ, FPJ, and LABS

Q: Sa natural poultry farming step 4…what is the ratio of mixing of the result of step3 to the soil?
A: Di pa po namin to nasubukan, i'll be asking sir andry regarding this step in his upcoming seminar in davao city.

Q: Is the soil to be used pertains to any kind of soil in the farm?
A: Soil rich in microorganisms is the best / IMO 4

Q: Why mix with soil?
A: Fresh/healthy soil contains a lot of humus. Humus  is  the  rich,  sticky,  yet  crumbly  substance  found  in
healthy soil that is the world’s greatest resource. Also, this humus is the home of beneficial microorganisms which are the ones we are culturing/reproducing when we make IMOs.

Q: Is it a required ingredient in making feeds to be given to poultry? 
A: It's not a requirement but you may mix it for economical reasons in addition to the answer in the question above.

Q: Can it also be given to pigs?
A: Absolutely!!!

Q: Sa FAA (fish amino acids) There were 3 kinds of materials discussed to be used namely, fish, kuhol/eggs, animal bones…..Can all 3 be mixed together in making the concoction or each one of them be used in their respective concoctions.
A: I would suggest that you separate them as they have their respective applications.

Q: Also why spray only to the soil and not to the leaves of the plants?
A: In NF, the principle is always "Feed the soil, and the soil will feed the plant"

smile

Thanks,

Van

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Hi ivanjudebusgano

Can I copy your photos and reproduce it in Taupauilin I wan to display it in our Barangay hall sa bukid. e credit ko lang kung sino ang author nito

Thanks
Warren

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Sir Wintuha,

Please comment if we did the proper mulching procedures on this sample Palm Oil seedling. 

1. First, we "RING" the soil around it more than the longest reach of its leaves.

2. Then we place on the "ringed" soil the cut branches of madre de cacao, leaving about 3" around the base of the seedling to allow for growth of the trunk.  By the time the trunk grow an additional 3", the cut branches around it would have become soil already and time again for another mulching materials.

3. Then we covered the cut branches with the leaves of the kakawate and other dried grass from bushcuttings.

4. Then we covered the dried grass with IPA/Peking duck droppings mixed with good soil from the compost pile.  The result was mulching materials elevated from the ground that would eventually go down from the rains.

If the mulching procedure is correct, then we will do the same for all plants in my farm.  And when we are able to produce the FFJ, FPJ, FAA, OHN, All IMOs, LABS, etc. in this thread, we can use them to fertilize our plants and even produce some alternative feeds for our pigs.  he he he.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00264.jpg

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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Kuya D,

Ipacheck mo ang temperature ng mulching materials. Matagal kasi ang decomposition ng rice hull kaya heat generated from it may affect the plant. If temperature is about 35 degree C, possible na maexpose sa heat ang palm tree. Ipakalat mo na lang yung malapit sa base ng palm tree sa outside area ng ring, maski lumaki ang ring radius ng 3 meter, it is still okay.

Ang practice ko, after ring weeding, at least 3 meters for oil palm tree that are starting to bear flowers. I put basal fertilizer as discussed in the previous postings around the tree. 3/4 of kerosene container, maybe about 5-8 kg/tree.  Then I cover it with mulching materials.

Re: top soil, based on my experience ang best top soil rich in beneficial microorganism is those under the bamboo tree.

Fish Amino Acid, it is rich in nitrogen and its equivalent synthetic chemical na commercial ay urea. Nasusunog ang dahon ng halaman pagka nalagyan ng FAA.

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@boylaang

You may reproduce it sir. It's one way of spreading the gospel of Natural Farming. BTW, di po ako ang author nyan. Those are handouts from Doc Andry Lim.

Thanks.

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Sir Ross.

Wala sila pantesting ng temparature ng mulching materials.  Anyway 1 week na yong mulching materials ng sample Palm Oil seedling at may tumubo pa ngang bagong dahon sa gitna.

Per what I said:
1. Sa bagong "ring" ay mga sanga-sanga lang ng kakawate ang ipinatong sa lupa pero nilayo nila ng 3 inches mula sa circumference ng puno para allowance sa paglaki ng trunk until mabulok ang mga sanga at maging lupa. 

2. Sa ibabaw ng mga sanga ay pinatong nila ang mga dahon ng kakawate at mga tuyong grass mula sa pag bush cutting ng mga damo. 

3. Sa ibabaw ng mga tuyong grass at dahon ay saka nila ipinatong ang pinaghalong IPA/droppings ng mga peking duck (tuyo na rin more than 3 months na) at top soil sa compost pile (almost 2 years sa tambakan) namin.

4. Kahit sa pic ay parang angat sa lupa ang mixture IPA/dropings ng peking duck at top soil, ito ay manipis lang, at magdagdag na lang kami periodically pag bumaba na ang mulching materials due to rains at pag nabulok na ang mga sanga sa ilamim.  Our purpose is to avoid grass to grow again inside the "Ring" and compete with the plant on the soil nutrients.

5. Gagayahin na namin ang nasa sample sa lahat ng tanim sa farm and hopefully ang sistema ay pakinabangan ng mga tanim.

And after I have tested making the concoctions discussed in this thread and taught them to my farm workers, I think we will be on our way to really have fertile plants. 

My goal is to eliminate all grass in my farm (except some for my cow) and replace them with beneficial fertile plants.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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I am sure you can easily control grass around the tree with mulching materials. Ang character kasi ng grass ay pagka less ang oxygen in the soil, they grow vigorously.

On experimental basis, nilalagyan ko ng mongo bean ang polybag ng seedling oil palm na nasa nursery. As legume, mongo act as nitrogen fixer that produce natural urea. Meron din mulching material ang polybag at minimal na lang ang weeding work ko. Pagmarami na ako seeds ng mongo, I will plant mongo in the oil palm tree in the field to serve as green manure later on.

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To Sir Wintuha And Duckduck

May available ba kayong mga latest na manuals tungkol sa mga ibat-ibang organic farming techniques na katulad nito na picture na  ipinost , kung meron man saan makakabili specially in Metro Manila?

Thank you again.
smile

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Hand-outs ang mga iyan na ibinibigay during the  seminar ni Mr. Lim.

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Mga Kuyang,

5 days na kami dito sa Hawaii.  Ganda pala dito. he he he.

Naghihintay kami sa hospital sa Feb. 23 sa procedure na gagawin sa akin...yon bang may itutusok daw sa right thigh ko para malaman ang situation ng vein blockage sa heart para makapagdwsisyon ang mga doctor kung "baloon" or "by-pass" ang gagawing operation sa akin.

Sana ok naman ang operation para tuloy ang ligaya sa pagbrowse at pagposting dito sa forum.  Kelangan maituloy ko sa Guam at maging successful ang pagtesting ng paggawa ng mga concoctions ng organic farming.  he he he.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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duckduck wrote:

Mga Kuyang,

5 days na kami dito sa Hawaii.  Ganda pala dito. he he he.

Naghihintay kami sa hospital sa Feb. 23 sa procedure na gagawin sa akin...yon bang may itutusok daw sa right thigh ko para malaman ang situation ng vein blockage sa heart para makapagdwsisyon ang mga doctor kung "baloon" or "by-pass" ang gagawing operation sa akin.

Sana ok naman ang operation para tuloy ang ligaya sa pagbrowse at pagposting dito sa forum.  Kelangan maituloy ko sa Guam at maging successful ang pagtesting ng paggawa ng mga concoctions ng organic farming.  he he he.

Sana sir maging matagumpay ang mga treatment na gagawin sa inyu.....God Bless You Sir!

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good luck kuyang d and we will pray for the success of your operation and a quick recovery.

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Kuya D,

I hope everything will be fine. Just remember kaunting panahon na lang at fruit bearing oil palm tree na  ang next picture that you will post. With your passion and tender loving care you have shown in maintaining and developing your farm, I am sure all your dreams you have in your mind will be a reality in the immediate future.

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Kuyang d, Goodluck and GOD BLESS YOU. Post ka rin pics ng Hawaii hehehe....

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Kuyang duckduck, be strong god always on you,we pray for you...god speed...

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Kuyang D,

May you have a successful medical operation and fast recovery. Godspeed.

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To Sir D,
Good luck and God Bless.
May you have a successful operation and fast recovery.
Ingat.
Post ka agad kung pwde na.

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Kuyang D,

Our prayers are with you. Godbless.

Van

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duckduck wrote:

Mga Kuyang,

5 days na kami dito sa Hawaii.  Ganda pala dito. he he he.

Naghihintay kami sa hospital sa Feb. 23 sa procedure na gagawin sa akin...yon bang may itutusok daw sa right thigh ko para malaman ang situation ng vein blockage sa heart para makapagdwsisyon ang mga doctor kung "baloon" or "by-pass" ang gagawing operation sa akin.

Sana ok naman ang operation para tuloy ang ligaya sa pagbrowse at pagposting dito sa forum.  Kelangan maituloy ko sa Guam at maging successful ang pagtesting ng paggawa ng mga concoctions ng organic farming.  he he he.

hope everything ok kuya d, dapat nun 2002 nag undergo ako ng unang test niyo pero after 2nd opinion ng dr. sa heart center inasure niya wala akomg blockage after other kind of tests...

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wintuha wrote:

Hand-outs ang mga iyan na ibinibigay during the  seminar ni Mr. Lim.

Good luck to your operation Sir D and for the better recovery.
Sir Wintuha, are you still using carbonized rice hull w/ chicken manure or pig manure this time compared to vermicomposting?
Can you give some tips about this, then sir may hand-outs po kayo dyan tungkol dito?
Another po pala, what happen po if i apply directly the decomposed animal manure (what i mean po na yung animal manure ay na decomposed siya sa likod ng baboyan na hindi natatabunan ng organic compost) to my plants on top of the first layer of the soil which is the first layer of the soil is yung natural na lupa sa lupa, dba sir may sinusunod na ratio dito?

smile

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kayang kaya yan manoy, ORAGON ata yan! hehe... we will pray for you manoy D..

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GreenStream wrote:
wintuha wrote:

Hand-outs ang mga iyan na ibinibigay during the  seminar ni Mr. Lim.

Good luck to your operation Sir D and for the better recovery.
Sir Wintuha, are you still using carbonized rice hull w/ chicken manure or pig manure this time compared to vermicomposting?
Can you give some tips about this, then sir may hand-outs po kayo dyan tungkol dito?
Another po pala, what happen po if i apply directly the decomposed animal manure (what i mean po na yung animal manure ay na decomposed siya sa likod ng baboyan na hindi natatabunan ng organic compost) to my plants on top of the first layer of the soil which is the first layer of the soil is yung natural na lupa sa lupa, dba sir may sinusunod na ratio dito?

smile

DBS ang gamit ko sa baboyan and every week we spray it with IMO. I prefer to use soiled DBS in basal organic fertilizer dahil marami na ang population nito ng IMO. 

Per batch:

4 sacks of rice hull as first layer
2 sacks of matured organic fertilizer
2 fresh rice bran, then I spray it w/ IMO, FPJ, FFJ and Kuhol Amino Acid solution (pls see the dilution ratio above)
8 sacks of soiled DBS, then spray it with the diluted concoction
Cover it with top soil to maintain fermentation

Solution:
40 liters water
500 ml IMO, 250 ml FPJ, 250 ml FFJ and 500 ml Kuhol amino acid

Hindi ko na hinahalo dahil time consuming

After 30-35 days fermentation, if temperature goes down to 32 degree C puwede na gamitin sa halaman.

Kung available ang CRH, ratio 1:3, mix it thoroughly para even ang mixture, then I spray it w/ new solution (see above) before applying it around the tree. After ring weeding, I apply it around the tree and cover it with mulching materials (cuttings from ring weeding).

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Kuyang Duck2,

With ALL these High Tech, everything Will be fine, especially IF you put EVERYTHING into the Hands of GOD, nothing is impossible, minor nalang po ang mga 'procedure' na ganyan, laluna nasa Hawaii pa kayo.

GOOD LUCK and with GOD'S SPEED ! ! !

GOD BLESS.

Carlos

280 (edited by GreenStream Feb 27 2012 23:39:43)

Re: Modified P.I.G.S. Baboyang Walang Amoy, Feeds/Marketing Solutions

Sir Win, For the mean time i need your help, paano po gagawa ng organic spray pesticide para sa pests lalo na sa mga gulay yung madali lang gawin o may alternative po ba?( Step by step )
Tungkol naman kay sir andry lim, may communication padin kayo hanggang ngayon?

Salamat.