ask lang po ang sabi mo na 150 kilos na darak 1 na fermented ng ffp,fpj at iba pa,mga ilang days po mag stay na good to eat po sa mga pigs sample may 20 ka na fattener?
at ang sa IMO po kong sabihin po na 1.1 ang ratio ng rice at molasses?
sa OHM naman po sa bagohan na mag ferment sample mga ilan lang po liter muna ang magawa kasi sa nabasa ko midyo maramihan na po sa gin palang na mix mo 10 liter na tapos after 10 days another 10 liter na gin hindi kaya napamahal na tayo sa gin ingredients palang?
sa LABS po ilang kilo na rice ang gagamitin to ferment?
kuyang tony paki share naman ng fermented mo in small volume lang muna para midyo maklarohan ako pag ako na mag start kong baga barya barya lang muna gawin natin.
as of fermented is concerned ilang day/months /yrs.ma prolong ang visa ng fermented juice?
Actually wala akong sinabi kung ilang baboy ang puedeng pakainin ng 150 kilos na Darak mixed with the various Liquid Concentrates, at kung ilang araw bago maubos ang mixture. I sent it to you for informative purpose only and guide should you decide to test it and compare with cost of commercial feeds. Kahit marami na kaming tanim ay wala rin akong sinabi na gumawa na kami ng IMO, FFJ, FPJ, LABS, OHN, FAA and KAA.
Until now ay 100% FeedsPro pa rin kami fermented with 3 parts of water to ferment the feeds for a maximum of 24 hours before giving to the pigs, at once a day feeding at 4PM and feeding them fresh green leaves 2 hours before feeding them with the main fermented feeds. We intend to continue doing these because we were able to save on commercial feeds and labor.
Ang pinadala ko sayo ay ang sangkap ng sample ng isang batch ng alternative organic feeds na wala ng kahalong commercial feeds. Kahit kailan ay wala akong sinabi na ginawa na namin yon. Wala pa akong data kung magkano aabutin ang paggawa ng iba ibang liquid concentrates na ihahalo sa 150 kilos na Darak. Kaya nga pinadala ko rin ito kay Kenneth para kung gusto nia subukan ay lagyan din nia ng mga costings sa mga gastos para kung ilan ang volume na lumabas ay yon ang ikompara sa cost ng comparative volume of commercial feeds.
In producing the liquid concentrates, except for FAA and KAA, most of the raw materials shall be coming from our plants, and probably additional cost shall be incurred in the form of molasses that we shall buy and of course our labor cost plus the cost of the 150 kilos of Darak. Since most of the raw materials must be coming from our plants, and the fermented solids can also be added to the mixture that shall increase the volume of the mixture further more, it would seem that there might be some cost savings. However, I have not read anything yet if someone have actually done this already, except for Sir Andry Lim who have been advocating this method in his seminars.
If someone can do everything in paragraph 3 above, and shall be able to accumulate cost data, then we shall be able to compare it with the cost of the comparable volume of commercial feeds to find out whether we can really save on feed cost or not.
Until such time that someone can do this, we will probably not be able or never be able to find out whether it is worth the effort to go this route.
The question now is "who is willing to do the experiment?" Mr. Andry Lim has been advocating this method in his seminars. However, I was unable to attend such a seminar yet, and I have not yet read any of his cost production also to personally make a cost comparison. If only Sir Andry Lim can post his cost production data and how to do it, members might be encouraged to do some testing to confirm it. I, for one, might do it also.
Lastly, the only person I know, who have already attended Mr. Andry's seminar is Tholitz and he posted that they were already making many of the listed liquid concentrates. I sincerely hope that Tholitz shall be able to share with us his cost data in the future.
My quest for this method is still ongoing...I have already located a place in Naga City who is producing the molasses from sugar canes.
I hope I had honestly answered your questions.
"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.” "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.” "The cautious seldom err. "