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kuyang tony,

ask lang po ang sabi mo na 150 kilos na darak 1 na fermented ng ffp,fpj at iba pa,mga ilang days po mag stay na good to eat po sa mga pigs sample may 20 ka na fattener?
at ang sa IMO po kong sabihin po na 1.1 ang ratio ng rice at molasses?
sa OHM naman po sa bagohan na mag ferment sample mga ilan lang po liter muna ang magawa kasi sa nabasa ko midyo maramihan na po sa gin palang na mix mo 10 liter na tapos after 10 days another 10 liter na gin hindi kaya napamahal na tayo sa gin ingredients palang?
sa LABS po ilang kilo na rice ang gagamitin to ferment?
kuyang tony paki share naman ng fermented mo in small volume lang muna para midyo maklarohan ako pag ako na mag start kong baga barya barya lang muna gawin natin.
as of fermented is concerned ilang day/months /yrs.ma prolong ang visa ng fermented juice?
thanks

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3m`s wrote:

kuyang tony,

ask lang po ang sabi mo na 150 kilos na darak 1 na fermented ng ffp,fpj at iba pa,mga ilang days po mag stay na good to eat po sa mga pigs sample may 20 ka na fattener?
at ang sa IMO po kong sabihin po na 1.1 ang ratio ng rice at molasses?
sa OHM naman po sa bagohan na mag ferment sample mga ilan lang po liter muna ang magawa kasi sa nabasa ko midyo maramihan na po sa gin palang na mix mo 10 liter na tapos after 10 days another 10 liter na gin hindi kaya napamahal na tayo sa gin ingredients palang?
sa LABS po ilang kilo na rice ang gagamitin to ferment?
kuyang tony paki share naman ng fermented mo in small volume lang muna para midyo maklarohan ako pag ako na mag start kong baga barya barya lang muna gawin natin.
as of fermented is concerned ilang day/months /yrs.ma prolong ang visa ng fermented juice?
thanks

Allen,

Actually wala akong sinabi kung ilang baboy ang puedeng pakainin ng 150 kilos na Darak mixed with the various Liquid Concentrates, at kung ilang araw bago maubos ang mixture.  I sent it to you for informative purpose only and guide should you decide to test it and compare with cost of commercial feeds.  Kahit marami na kaming tanim ay wala rin akong sinabi na gumawa na kami ng IMO, FFJ, FPJ, LABS, OHN, FAA and KAA.

Until now ay 100% FeedsPro pa rin kami fermented with 3 parts of water to ferment the feeds for a maximum of 24 hours before giving to the pigs, at once a day feeding at 4PM and feeding them fresh green leaves 2 hours before feeding them with the main fermented feeds.  We intend to continue doing these because we were able to save on commercial feeds and labor.

Ang pinadala ko sayo ay ang sangkap ng sample ng isang batch ng alternative organic feeds na wala ng kahalong commercial feeds.  Kahit kailan ay wala akong sinabi na ginawa na namin yon.  Wala pa akong data kung magkano aabutin ang paggawa ng iba ibang liquid concentrates na ihahalo sa 150 kilos na Darak.  Kaya nga pinadala ko rin ito kay Kenneth para kung gusto nia subukan ay lagyan din nia ng mga costings sa mga gastos para kung ilan ang volume na lumabas ay yon ang ikompara sa cost ng comparative volume of commercial feeds.

In producing the liquid concentrates, except for FAA and KAA, most of the raw materials shall be coming from our plants, and probably additional cost shall be incurred in the form of molasses that we shall buy and of course our labor cost plus the cost of the 150 kilos of Darak. Since most of the raw materials must be coming from our plants, and the fermented solids can also be added to the mixture that shall increase the volume of the mixture further more, it would seem that there might be some cost savings.  However, I have not read anything yet if someone have actually done this already, except for Sir Andry Lim who have been advocating this method in his seminars.

If someone can do everything in paragraph 3 above, and shall be able to accumulate cost data, then we shall be able to compare it with the cost of the comparable volume of commercial feeds to find out whether we can really save on feed cost or not.

Until such time that someone can do this, we will probably not be able or never be able to find out whether it is worth the effort to go this route.

The question now is "who is willing to do the experiment?"  Mr. Andry Lim has been advocating this method in his seminars.  However, I was unable to attend such a seminar yet, and I have not yet read any of his cost production also to personally make a cost comparison.  If only Sir Andry Lim can post his cost production data and how to do it, members might be encouraged to do some testing to confirm it.  I, for one, might do it also.

Lastly, the only person I know, who have already attended Mr. Andry's seminar is Tholitz and he posted that they were already making many of the listed liquid concentrates.  I sincerely hope that Tholitz shall be able to share with us his cost data in the future. 

My quest for this method is still ongoing...I have already located a place in Naga City who is producing the molasses from sugar canes.

I hope I had honestly answered your questions.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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kuyang tony,
copy po nag ask lang ako at nagbabasakali na yon na ang process mo mgayon,sana ikaw na ang maka una sa fermented using ffj.fpj at iba pa.
ako po next yr try ko mag start in small volume lang muna na fermented at piglets ko apply yon ang plan ko.
kuya ang fermented nyo na feedpro mga ilang days diin po ang tagal nya bago ma panis ang feeds?wala kasi sa amin dito ang feedpro.

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Allen,

Dahil once a day feeding ang practice namin, ay tuwing 6 or 7pm na lang nagtitimpla ang 1 worker ko na guardia sa farm from 7PM to 4AM.  Kaya ang tinimpla nia sa 7PM ng gabi ay 21 hours na by the time ipakain sa mga baboy sa 4PM the next day.

Araw araw ay nagtitimpla ng fermented feedspro at araw araw din ay pinakakain lahat sa mga baboy at nauubos naman lahat, kaya walang napapanis na fermented feeds. 

Maganda itong wet feeding dahil sapilitan pumapasok sa katawan ng baboy ang 3 parts water na napunta sa fermented feeds.  Para na ring uminom ang mga baboy ng maraming tubig.

Ang timplada sa malalaking baboy (sows and finishers) ay 2-3 kilos/pig/day.  Sa mga starters and growers ay .5-1.5 kilos/pig/day.  Lahat ng timplada ay may water na 3kilos for every kilo of feed.  Ang tubig ay galing sa poso (deep well).

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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duckduck wrote:
3m`s wrote:

kuyang tony,

ask lang po ang sabi mo na 150 kilos na darak 1 na fermented ng ffp,fpj at iba pa,mga ilang days po mag stay na good to eat po sa mga pigs sample may 20 ka na fattener?
at ang sa IMO po kong sabihin po na 1.1 ang ratio ng rice at molasses?
sa OHM naman po sa bagohan na mag ferment sample mga ilan lang po liter muna ang magawa kasi sa nabasa ko midyo maramihan na po sa gin palang na mix mo 10 liter na tapos after 10 days another 10 liter na gin hindi kaya napamahal na tayo sa gin ingredients palang?
sa LABS po ilang kilo na rice ang gagamitin to ferment?
kuyang tony paki share naman ng fermented mo in small volume lang muna para midyo maklarohan ako pag ako na mag start kong baga barya barya lang muna gawin natin.
as of fermented is concerned ilang day/months /yrs.ma prolong ang visa ng fermented juice?
thanks

Allen,

Actually wala akong sinabi kung ilang baboy ang puedeng pakainin ng 150 kilos na Darak mixed with the various Liquid Concentrates, at kung ilang araw bago maubos ang mixture.  I sent it to you for informative purpose only and guide should you decide to test it and compare with cost of commercial feeds.  Kahit marami na kaming tanim ay wala rin akong sinabi na gumawa na kami ng IMO, FFJ, FPJ, LABS, OHN, FAA and KAA.

Until now ay 100% FeedsPro pa rin kami fermented with 3 parts of water to ferment the feeds for a maximum of 24 hours before giving to the pigs, at once a day feeding at 4PM and feeding them fresh green leaves 2 hours before feeding them with the main fermented feeds.  We intend to continue doing these because we were able to save on commercial feeds and labor.

Ang pinadala ko sayo ay ang sangkap ng sample ng isang batch ng alternative organic feeds na wala ng kahalong commercial feeds.  Kahit kailan ay wala akong sinabi na ginawa na namin yon.  Wala pa akong data kung magkano aabutin ang paggawa ng iba ibang liquid concentrates na ihahalo sa 150 kilos na Darak.  Kaya nga pinadala ko rin ito kay Kenneth para kung gusto nia subukan ay lagyan din nia ng mga costings sa mga gastos para kung ilan ang volume na lumabas ay yon ang ikompara sa cost ng comparative volume of commercial feeds.

In producing the liquid concentrates, except for FAA and KAA, most of the raw materials shall be coming from our plants, and probably additional cost shall be incurred in the form of molasses that we shall buy and of course our labor cost plus the cost of the 150 kilos of Darak. Since most of the raw materials must be coming from our plants, and the fermented solids can also be added to the mixture that shall increase the volume of the mixture further more, it would seem that there might be some cost savings.  However, I have not read anything yet if someone have actually done this already, except for Sir Andry Lim who have been advocating this method in his seminars.

If someone can do everything in paragraph 3 above, and shall be able to accumulate cost data, then we shall be able to compare it with the cost of the comparable volume of commercial feeds to find out whether we can really save on feed cost or not.

Until such time that someone can do this, we will probably not be able or never be able to find out whether it is worth the effort to go this route.

The question now is "who is willing to do the experiment?"  Mr. Andry Lim has been advocating this method in his seminars.  However, I was unable to attend such a seminar yet, and I have not yet read any of his cost production also to personally make a cost comparison.  If only Sir Andry Lim can post his cost production data and how to do it, members might be encouraged to do some testing to confirm it.  I, for one, might do it also.

Lastly, the only person I know, who have already attended Mr. Andry's seminar is Tholitz and he posted that they were already making many of the listed liquid concentrates.  I sincerely hope that Tholitz shall be able to share with us his cost data in the future. 

My quest for this method is still ongoing...I have already located a place in Naga City who is producing the molasses from sugar canes.

I hope I had honestly answered your questions.

kuyang,

di rin kami gumagawa ng costing sa aming mga concoctions...
sa paggawa ng concoctions, main ingredient mo is the mollasses and the price of this will be the main component in your cost data. the least price is P12/kilo and the maximum is P40/kilo.
if you will make FFJ say...papaya and mollases the ratio is 1:1
one kilo of papaya is P10 and mollases is P30 and you can harvest around 1.5-2 liters of FFJ. just do the math and you will arrive in making the required litters.
sa FPJ naman usually we shred the mix forage leaves and ferment it with mollases saka ihahalo sa darak with other ingredients as sapal ng taho, durog na mais and sometimes kinudkod na nyog. dahil sa mura ng copra nowadays mas mainam siguro kudkudin na lang nyog ferment with mollasses and syang ihalo sa darak.
ang kailangan natin gawin ay magtanim din tayo different forage plants and fruits wherein the excess for our consumption ay pwede natin magamit sa paggawa nitong mga concoctions.
kung tutuusin mo parang mapapamahal pa ata at mas matrabaho kesa bibili na lang ng commercial feeds...hehhehehe
Kuyang D,
we are using feedpro pre starter na din pala sa aming newly weaned 12 piglets and they are eating good.

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kuyang tholitz.
thanks sa info yon diin po ang compute ko piro ang maganda lang siguri is natural ang pakain mo sa piggy compare sa commercial feeds at sa manok diin po.
sa akin na kaonti palang na alagang baboy pwdi po siguro piro if malaking farm na mas mahirapan sila sa process palang ng organik,nag inquire ako sa lugar namin about sa organic maganda po sana kaya lang madalang daw ang may interis na mag go sa organic piggery baka sa huli dadami diin sa backyard hog farming.
dito sa amin wala pang feedpro kaya tyaga nalang kami sa feeds at darak 1 ,wet feeding ang procedure namin may halong atovi sa feeds at water mix with molasses ang ratio 1 can ng sardines sa 20 liter na water ayos diin sarap ang pig sa sabaw ng molasses.

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3m`s wrote:

kuyang tholitz.
thanks sa info yon diin po ang compute ko piro ang maganda lang siguri is natural ang pakain mo sa piggy compare sa commercial feeds at sa manok diin po.
sa akin na kaonti palang na alagang baboy pwdi po siguro piro if malaking farm na mas mahirapan sila sa process palang ng organik,nag inquire ako sa lugar namin about sa organic maganda po sana kaya lang madalang daw ang may interis na mag go sa organic piggery baka sa huli dadami diin sa backyard hog farming.
dito sa amin wala pang feedpro kaya tyaga nalang kami sa feeds at darak 1 ,wet feeding ang procedure namin may halong atovi sa feeds at water mix with molasses ang ratio 1 can ng sardines sa 20 liter na water ayos diin sarap ang pig sa sabaw ng molasses.

kuyang,

di uubra sa malalaking farm ang natural farming preparation nitong feeds, but sir Andry Lim's farm in Davao i think is practicing this feeding system.
konti din lang ang alaga namin, back to isang inahen ako ngayon and sana makasabay sa order ni kuyang tony ng PS Gilts kahit dalawa. kaya ako nag attend ng seminar sa natural farming para kahit papaano ay safe ang mga kinakain namin galing sa farm. from vegetables to the meat that we produce. since ma acquire ko yung lupa never kami nag apply ng chemical fertilizer, we have fertilizer from our ANC that we applied in the plants and the animal manure is being fed to our ANC's.

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kuyang tholitz,
sa akin nag search lang ako balak ko kasing mag dagdag ng SL at fatteners kaya na yon ang isang dahilan na balak ko mag fermented at syimpre maka tulong sa kababayan natin na kakain ng pig na healthly at less ang antibiotic.

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Joselito (tholitz),

Nagpunta na si Joel sa farm mo.  Napakalayo daw from the main road. No wonder wala ka pang Soreco power sa lugar mo. he he he. 

Kinunan nia ng maramic pics ang farm mo at pinadala sa sakin.  An tataba ng sarisaring tanim sa matabang lupa ng farm mo.  Palagay ko you practice the "Conservative Tillage" organic farming method that has a semilarity to the "One Straw Revolution" organic farming of Mr. Fokouda.

Thanks for this information that you posted earlier...papaya and mollases the ratio is 1:1
one kilo of papaya can harvest around 1.5-2 liters of FFJ.
  I already have bananas, papayas, tomatoes, mangoes, santol, duhat, palm oil trees, etc.

Questions:

1. Is the ratio of the shredded different kinds of plants leaves to molasses the same as in fruits?  Must it be 1:1 also?  Shall the liquid concentrate harvested also between 1.5-2 liters also?

2. This thread already have the information on how to make IMO, and the other liquid concentrates such as FFJ, FPJ, OHN, KAA, FAA, LABS.  However, do you also have the info on how many liters can be harvested on an equivalent ratio of 1:1 kilo of the other kinds of liquid concentrates other than FFJ and FPJ?

If you can give the info on no. 2 above, then I shall be able to make concoctions equal to the listing of liquid concentrates needed to be mixed with 150 kilos of D1 in the sample batch of the 100% organic feed as posted by me.  I can even get the costings of production so that we can finally compare it with a similar volume of commercial feeds.  Remember that the sapal or solids of everything in the production of the liquid concentrates can still be added to the 150 kilos of D1, so this will almost double the volume of the 150 kilos of commercial feeds.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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3m`s wrote:

kuyang tholitz,
sa akin nag search lang ako balak ko kasing mag dagdag ng SL at fatteners kaya na yon ang isang dahilan na balak ko mag fermented at syimpre maka tulong sa kababayan natin na kakain ng pig na healthly at less ang antibiotic.

kuyang,

that's why nag attend talaga ako ng seminar on natural farming and isinama ko pa father ko para mas lalo nya maintindihan ang konsepto ng natural na pamamaraan sa agrikultura.
to produce and rear the plants and animals naturally. madami nga sa mga naging costumer namin sa baboy ang nagtatanong kung kelan ulit magkakatay. mas masarap kaya kumain pag alam mong safe and healthy ang food na ihahain sa hapag kainan.

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duckduck wrote:

Joselito (tholitz),

Nagpunta na si Joel sa farm mo.  Napakalayo daw from the main road. No wonder wala ka pang Soreco power sa lugar mo. he he he. 

Kinunan nia ng maramic pics ang farm mo at pinadala sa sakin.  An tataba ng sarisaring tanim sa matabang lupa ng farm mo.  Palagay ko you practice the "Conservative Tillage" organic farming method that has a semilarity to the "One Straw Revolution" organic farming of Mr. Fokouda.

Thanks for this information that you posted earlier...papaya and mollases the ratio is 1:1
one kilo of papaya can harvest around 1.5-2 liters of FFJ.
  I already have bananas, papayas, tomatoes, mangoes, santol, duhat, palm oil trees, etc.

Questions:

1. Is the ratio of the shredded different kinds of plants leaves to molasses the same as in fruits?  Must it be 1:1 also?  Shall the liquid concentrate harvested also between 1.5-2 liters also?

2. This thread already have the information on how to make IMO, and the other liquid concentrates such as FFJ, FPJ, OHN, KAA, FAA, LABS.  However, do you also have the info on how many liters can be harvested on an equivalent ratio of 1:1 kilo of the other kinds of liquid concentrates other than FFJ and FPJ?

If you can give the info on no. 2 above, then I shall be able to make concoctions equal to the listing of liquid concentrates needed to be mixed with 150 kilos of D1 in the sample batch of the 100% organic feed as posted by me.  I can even get the costings of production so that we can finally compare it with a similar volume of commercial feeds.  Remember that the sapal or solids of everything in the production of the liquid concentrates can still be added to the 150 kilos of D1, so this will almost double the volume of the 150 kilos of commercial feeds.

kuyang,

it is only a 15 minute walk galing sa labasan if you don't have a motorcycle. parang exercise na din paglalakad papunta sa farm. i don't have a problem with electricity i have my own solar system that gives light at night in the farm.
it takes almost two years, para manumbalik ang nutrients sa lupa sa farm. when i acquired the farm, it is totally depleted with soil nutrients, napakahirap patubuin o napakabagal ng paglaki ng mga itinatanim na puno o kaya gulay. and i can proundly say that is a chemical free farm dahil puro natural ways lang ginamit namin with the help of fermented concoctions and our ANC's vermicompost including the liquid from our wallowing fool that flows directly to the ground.
the concoctions have their own ratios, as FFJ is 1:1; FPJ is sometimes 2:1 or 3:1 the more watery plants na ihalo mo sa FPJ more liquids will also be harvested so mag vary sya depende sa materials na ginamit mo with the molasses as your fermenting agent. as i've told di pa namin nasubukan gumawa lahat ng concoctions and di rin namin nasubukan kuhanan ng data for record keeping as we make only as per our consumption requirement.
yung shredded forage plants ay direkta na naming hinahalo sa darak and we are no longer extracting the liquids for sure the volume will be more as the plant parts are also added in the formulations. we make separate FPJ, FFJ, FAA, IMO2 and extract the liquids for our veggies and panghalo sa inumin ng mga baboy mix with IMO2 and the solids are added in the feeds formulations.
if you want to gather data you can do in smaller ratio as 1:1 or 2:1 of any of the concoctions but the costing will be definitely affected by the price of molasses.

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Joselito,

Nagtanong tanong na si Joel at nalocate nia ang mga gumagawa ng molasses sa Naga City.

Ang presyo daw ay between P12 to P15 pero ang customer ang mag pickup ng mga molasses. Madagdag pa ang pasahe ng tao at sueldo ng tao.  Patanong ko kung magkano arkila ng isang van back and forth na biahe. 

Hanggang kailan ba ang shelf life ng molasses?

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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duckduck wrote:

Joselito,

Nagtanong tanong na si Joel at nalocate nia ang mga gumagawa ng molasses sa Naga City.

Ang presyo daw ay between P12 to P15 pero ang customer ang mag pickup ng mga molasses. Madagdag pa ang pasahe ng tao at sueldo ng tao.  Patanong ko kung magkano arkila ng isang van back and forth na biahe. 

Hanggang kailan ba ang shelf life ng molasses?

emailed you kuyang.

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Joselito,

Please email me if you are willing to share on the arkila of a jeepney so that we can both buy 2 drums each of the molasses from the source.  Your dad and my son Joel can do the purchase.  Thanks.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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duckduck wrote:

Joselito,

Please email me if you are willing to share on the arkila of a jeepney so that we can both buy 2 drums each of the molasses from the source.  Your dad and my son Joel can do the purchase.  Thanks.

sir tony,
sama din ako ng isang drum. pick up ko na lang sa inyo sa sorsogon.
tnx.

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        Loser says, "It may be possible but it is too difficult."

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duckduck wrote:

Sir Ross,

Sabi ng katiwala ko, hindi pa raw nia naitanim yong mga buto na pinadala nyo sakin via LBC.

Puede pa kaya itanim ang mga yon?  Do you remember the name of the seeds?

Thanks,
Tony

Ang pag test kung viable pa ang mga seeds ay ilagay sa tubig, say kung sa timba ay 1/4 or less ang height ng mga seeds. Yung lulutang na mga seeds ay lesser ang chance o hindi mag germinate.

Alugbati (black color), turo or paayap (legume it's color is light brown) at african oil palm (malalaki ang buto, kasing laki ng holen or bigger).

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barnut wrote:
duckduck wrote:

Joselito,

Please email me if you are willing to share on the arkila of a jeepney so that we can both buy 2 drums each of the molasses from the source.  Your dad and my son Joel can do the purchase.  Thanks.

sir tony,
sama din ako ng isang drum. pick up ko na lang sa inyo sa sorsogon.
tnx.

Barnut,

Ok lang.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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wintuha wrote:
duckduck wrote:

Sir Ross,

Sabi ng katiwala ko, hindi pa raw nia naitanim yong mga buto na pinadala nyo sakin via LBC.

Puede pa kaya itanim ang mga yon?  Do you remember the name of the seeds?

Thanks,
Tony

Ang pag test kung viable pa ang mga seeds ay ilagay sa tubig, say kung sa timba ay 1/4 or less ang height ng mga seeds. Yung lulutang na mga seeds ay lesser ang chance o hindi mag germinate.

Alugbati (black color), turo or paayap (legume it's color is light brown) at african oil palm (malalaki ang buto, kasing laki ng holen or bigger).

Sir Ross,

Salamat sa advise.  I will be in Bicol from 11/14-21/2012, so ako mismo magtesting sa mga buto.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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Good day!

tanong ko lang kung anong ratio gamit mo sa paghahalo ng darak.. matagal mo na yatang praktis ang ganito...ang akin kasi 2:1   2kl feeds 1kl dark   at isa pa may halo din akong mais... kapag na mix ko na ang darak at feeds ..kapag mag papakain na ako mag titimbang muna ako ng 10kl mixed na at haluan ko ng 2kl ng mais ... at atovi ...bago lng akong gumagamit ng atovi. wala pa rin kasing sumasagot sa tanong ko kung sino ang makokontak na taga feedpro dito sa cavite area...sinusunod mo ba ang paghahalo ng atovi yung 1tbsp/kl ...next week mag hahalo n rin ako ng molasses. sa sampung grower mga ilang part ng molasses kaya ang dapat kong ihalo sa tubig?
maraming salamat

3m`s wrote:

kuyang tholitz.
thanks sa info yon diin po ang compute ko piro ang maganda lang siguri is natural ang pakain mo sa piggy compare sa commercial feeds at sa manok diin po.
sa akin na kaonti palang na alagang baboy pwdi po siguro piro if malaking farm na mas mahirapan sila sa process palang ng organik,nag inquire ako sa lugar namin about sa organic maganda po sana kaya lang madalang daw ang may interis na mag go sa organic piggery baka sa huli dadami diin sa backyard hog farming.
dito sa amin wala pang feedpro kaya tyaga nalang kami sa feeds at darak 1 ,wet feeding ang procedure namin may halong atovi sa feeds at water mix with molasses ang ratio 1 can ng sardines sa 20 liter na water ayos diin sarap ang pig sa sabaw ng molasses.

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Mga Kuyang,

Mukhang maganda talaga ang FeedsPro. At 64 days from DOB nong 11/18, ay tinimbang namin an pinakamaliit sa 6 na piglets para litsonin.  Ang timbang ng piglet ay 30 kilos. Mas mabigat pa siguro ang mga kapatid nia na mas malaki.

Kung ang standard weight ng piglet ay 24 kilos at 70 days of age, ibig bang sabihin ay maganda ang performance ng FeedsPro feeds, supplemented by greens?

Ito ang pic ng natirang malalaki na kapatid ng nilitson namin. Ganyan talaga kapintog ang katawan nila: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00028.jpg

Ito ang nilitson namin. he he he: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00008.jpg

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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Mga Kuyang,

Nakabili na rin kami sa source mismo ng 4 na drums na molasses. Medyo mataas pa rin ang landed cost dahil binili pa ang mga drums at umupa kami ng Jeepney na 10 drums capacity pero 4 drums lang nilagay namin.

Ang landed cost ng 4 drums molasses ay P24.50 per kilo. Nirecompute ko at mali computation ni Joel sa CP nia. Pag tangalin an unit cost ng drums ay P19.17 per kilo lang.

Kinompute namin ang landed cost ng 10 drums molassea ay P18.86 per kilo using the same Jeepney. Pag inalis ang unit cost ng drums ay lumalabas lang na P13.53 per kilo ang molasses.

Pag na-maximize ang drum-load ng Jeepney ay bumababa ang unit cost ng molasses. (Jeepney=P5K, Molasses=P10/kilo, Drums=P800 each, meals=P500)

I also personally supervised making FFJ, FAA, KAA based on the instructions and pictures from the forum at patuloy silang gagawa ng FPJ, OHN and LABS, and IMO.

BTW, advise sa amin ni Sir Wintuha, sa 20 kilos capacity na container, ang 10 kilos na molasses ay puedeng dilute sa half bote laman na gin para madaling mahalo at magsilbing pabilis na extractant ng nutrients sa plants, fruits, fish and kuhol.

Sana successful ang nagawa naming FFJ, FAA, KAA. Pakukunan ko ng pics everyday para nakikita ko ang nangyayari sa concoctions everyday until 7 days sa FFJ and 15 days sa FAA and KAA.

Ito ang pic ng FFJ, FAA at KAA na ginawa namin: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00046.jpg

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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For your info: sa paggawa ng FPJ ang raw plant na dapat gagamitin ay yung mga talbos or newly developed leaves, kung sa saging yun bilog pa ang dahon, kung kawayan ay yung ubod na ang taas ay mga 3-4 feet, etc. The reason behind this is that the energy and all the nutrients and hormones of the plant are concentrated on the tip or talbos. To facilitate extraction of nutrients and hormones from raw plants during fermentation, alcohol or distilled spirit such as Gin or lambanog is added in the mixture. When diluting molasses to reduce viscosity, I use alcohol ang pang dilute.

For golden kuhol as a source of amino acid, ingat lang sa contamination ng chemical na inispray sa rice field dahil kung gagamitin as part of animal feed mix ay baka malason ang alaga natin na baboy. Ang pangunguha ng kuhol sa ricefield ay dapat before spraying of chemical. As precautionary measure ibinababad ko sa tubig for at least 2 days at every 12 hours ay pinapalitan ng tubig. Yung mga patay na kuhol na lumulutang ay di ko isinasama sa fermentation.

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wintuha wrote:

For your info: sa paggawa ng FPJ ang raw plant na dapat gagamitin ay yung mga talbos or newly developed leaves, kung sa saging yun bilog pa ang dahon, kung kawayan ay yung ubod na ang taas ay mga 3-4 feet, etc. The reason behind this is that the energy and all the nutrients and hormones of the plant are concentrated on the tip or talbos. To facilitate extraction of nutrients and hormones from raw plants during fermentation, alcohol or distilled spirit such as Gin or lambanog is added in the mixture. When diluting molasses to reduce viscosity, I use alcohol ang pang dilute.

For golden kuhol as a source of amino acid, ingat lang sa contamination ng chemical na inispray sa rice field dahil kung gagamitin as part of animal feed mix ay baka malason ang alaga natin na baboy. Ang pangunguha ng kuhol sa ricefield ay dapat before spraying of chemical. As precautionary measure ibinababad ko sa tubig for at least 2 days at every 12 hours ay pinapalitan ng tubig. Yung mga patay na kuhol na lumulutang ay di ko isinasama sa fermentation.

Sir Ross,

Yong nabili naming baluko na replacement ng kuhol, at nabili namin na "malaking kagot na may laman at buhay pa na nilinis namin ang shell at dinurog", at mga fresh eggs with shells na dinurog", ay hindi na ba puede at itapon na lang lahat namin? Ang baluko kasi ay sariwa at linis na at usually ay niluluto at kinakain namin.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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to all members, newbies, esp the devoted members PATULONG:
may piggery kami,bakante. walang laman.gusto kong mag-alaga.kaya lang konti lang ang kaalaman ko sa pagbababuyan.plano kong mag-alaga ng 20 fatteners, and 1 sow.or 15 fatteners 1 sow 1 boar
bago lang ako sa forum.di ko alam kung saan ako sasali na thread para makahingi ng TULONG.pasensiya na po kung out ot the topic itong ipopost ko....
1. pahingi po sana ng copy  FS/Cost and Return Analysis sa lahat ng may copy
2.sino pong may alam na farm dito sa Quirino Province or sa Isabela Province na nagbebenta ng gilts/piglets na magaganda ang lahi. pakibigay na lang po mga contacts ng supplier. ty
3.sa mga gumagamit ng PIGS, less labor ba talaga? kasi tingin ko yung paggawa pa lang pig pen matrabaho na. pagktapos, on the time na mag-aalaga ka kailangan mo pa ng ipa...
salamat sa inyong mga replies..
ito ang aking email:tossz.jun@gmail.com...

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Ito yung aking new DBS, resulta ng pag research, sa tulong ni sir ducks and kenbats. Salamat sa inyo sir ng marami sana mag success na ito

http://122.2.11.62/dbs.jpg

http://122.2.11.62/dbs1.jpg

http://122.2.11.62/dbs2.jpg

YoUR EyES FaTTEnes YOur AnIMalS!!!!
http://122.2.11.62/snhf/index.php

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Gateway,

Mukhang happy and comfortable naman ang mga baboy mo sa DBS pens nila.

Sabi nga ni Sir Andry, proper pig housing design is key to successful pig business and more important than feeding.

We continue to make changes and improvements to the original P.I.G.S. housing design

@PaulDaniel,

Salamat ho sa pag post mo.

1. Sa comment mo na mahirap ang gumawa ng DBS, alin ba ang mas mahirap...ang linis ng linis araw araw ng conventional pen, pero mabaho pa rin or ang hindi na nalilinis araw araw ng DBS pero walang baho na tulad ng conventional pen?

2. I invite you to read from the beginning of this thread para makita mo ang paggawa ng DBS pen at compare mo sa cost ng paggawa mo ng existing conventional pen mo.  Also consider the long-term savings sa labor of cleaning the conventional pen.

Magbasa po tayo ng magbasa dito sa forum starting from this thread, to gain more knowledge just like what all of us did already.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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Kasi sir ducks nakita ng caretaker ko nung nasa nursery sila hindi ganun ka bilog katawan nila ngayon nasa DBS na sila medyo nagbilog kasi dahil cguro masaya na sila.. Wala po ito pool sir.. Half Cement, half DBS...

YoUR EyES FaTTEnes YOur AnIMalS!!!!
http://122.2.11.62/snhf/index.php

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@ Sir duckduck, just read the first page and some of the discussions in page 43, smile..na appreciate ko 'yong paggawa ninyo ng DBS, dahil may mga larawan.(kaya mas magkakaroon ka ng mas akma na paggawa ng DBS, at hindi puro sa imahinasyon nalang sa isipan). Matanong ko lang po, gaano ang sukat ng kulungan na may DBS sabihin na po natin na naglalaman ng 10 patabaing baboy at kung maliit lang ang lupa(backyard). (Sukat sa lupa na may ipa, sukat ng pool, sukat ng sementadong huntahan ng biik/baboy)

Tama po ba ang nabasa ko, isang beses lang kayo magpakain sa isang araw? Kahit sa mga biik? Gaano ito karami per biik(baboy)? At sa mga halaman naman na pinapakain ninyo, ano po bang klaseng halaman/gulay/prutas/rootcrops ang bawal na ipakain sa biik/baboy?
Fresh o niluluto pa ang halaman/gulay/prutas/rootcrops? Dahon lang o pwede pati bunga? Gaano ulit karami per biik(baboy). Maraming Salamat.

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jojo1 wrote:

@ Sir duckduck, just read the first page and some of the discussions in page 43, smile..na appreciate ko 'yong paggawa ninyo ng DBS, dahil may mga larawan.(kaya mas magkakaroon ka ng mas akma na paggawa ng DBS, at hindi puro sa imahinasyon nalang sa isipan). Matanong ko lang po, gaano ang sukat ng kulungan na may DBS sabihin na po natin na naglalaman ng 10 patabaing baboy at kung maliit lang ang lupa(backyard). (Sukat sa lupa na may ipa, sukat ng pool, sukat ng sementadong huntahan ng biik/baboy)

Tama po ba ang nabasa ko, isang beses lang kayo magpakain sa isang araw? Kahit sa mga biik? Gaano ito karami per biik(baboy)? At sa mga halaman naman na pinapakain ninyo, ano po bang klaseng halaman/gulay/prutas/rootcrops ang bawal na ipakain sa biik/baboy?
Fresh o niluluto pa ang halaman/gulay/prutas/rootcrops? Dahon lang o pwede pati bunga? Gaano ulit karami per biik(baboy). Maraming Salamat.

Kasagutan sa mga tanong:

Sukat ng kulungan na may DBS:
1.5 square meter per pig, kaya sa 10 fatteners ay 15 square meters.  Puede rectangle ang hugis at kalahati concrete flooring and kalahati DBS area.  Wala ng pool to save on space. Naglagay na lang kami ng shower sa itaas.

Pagpakain:  Baka iba ang pagpakain sa biik ng iba. 

Pero sa amin, ang biik mula booster to prestarter, ay adlib ang pakain namin using Feedspro feeds dry feeding pa plus fresh green leaves if they will eat them.  At this time, kasama ang mga biik ng inahin at sumususo pa rin sila sa ina ng gatas. 

By the time na malapit na silang iwalay sa ina ay shifting na ang mga biik sa fermented wet feeding using prestarter feeds, ratio is 1:3 un-chlorinated water for maximum of 24 hours. 

Pagdating nila sa starter feeds at walay na sa ina by 35 days ay adlib pa rin pero malakas na silang kumain ng fermented wet feeds.  Ang kagandahan sa wet feeding ay kasama na ng feeds ang tubig na 3 parts, kaya halos marami na silang nainom na tubig.

Pagdating nila ng 60 days ay shifting na uli sa fermented grower feeds and at the same time shifting uli ng wet feeding from 2 x a day feeding to once a day feeding at 4PM, still using the same volume of feeds required for one day.  We observed, though, na sa once a day feeding ay hindi na maubos ng mga grower hogs, pati na ng mga inahin, ang the same volume of feeds plus fresh green leaves at 2PM, that they consume for twice a day feeding (kasi hindi na magkasya sa bituka), kaya may savings na kami sa feeds, at wala naman masamang epekto ito sa mga grower hogs.  Pagdating sa grower hogs, ay 2kilos per pig per day ang timplada namin at depende habang lumalaki ay dinadagdagan namin ang volume per pig hanggat kaya nilang ubusin.

Halaman na pinakakain: Fresh leaves ng Madre de Agua, Rensonii, Indigofira, Malungay, Mullbery, Alugbati, Talbos Kamote/laman, Kamoteng Kahoy (niluto).  Prutas ay sobrang harvested banana, papaya, etc.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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Gateway,

Yong mga naunang grow, ay sungkal sila ng sungkal sa DBS area lalo na kung umuulan at malamig.  Halos binabaon nila buong katawan sa IPA.

Kung mainit ang araw, puede naman hose sila dahil puede naman mabasa ang DBS area and concrete floor.

Ang bago naming gawa ng p.i.g.s., ay may PVC pipes na binutasan sa itaas ng concrete flooring at DBS area.  Manual opening parang showers pag mainit ang araw. he he he.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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duckduck wrote:
wintuha wrote:

For your info: sa paggawa ng FPJ ang raw plant na dapat gagamitin ay yung mga talbos or newly developed leaves, kung sa saging yun bilog pa ang dahon, kung kawayan ay yung ubod na ang taas ay mga 3-4 feet, etc. The reason behind this is that the energy and all the nutrients and hormones of the plant are concentrated on the tip or talbos. To facilitate extraction of nutrients and hormones from raw plants during fermentation, alcohol or distilled spirit such as Gin or lambanog is added in the mixture. When diluting molasses to reduce viscosity, I use alcohol ang pang dilute.

For golden kuhol as a source of amino acid, ingat lang sa contamination ng chemical na inispray sa rice field dahil kung gagamitin as part of animal feed mix ay baka malason ang alaga natin na baboy. Ang pangunguha ng kuhol sa ricefield ay dapat before spraying of chemical. As precautionary measure ibinababad ko sa tubig for at least 2 days at every 12 hours ay pinapalitan ng tubig. Yung mga patay na kuhol na lumulutang ay di ko isinasama sa fermentation.



Sir Ross,

Yong nabili naming baluko na replacement ng kuhol, at nabili namin na "malaking kagot na may laman at buhay pa na nilinis namin ang shell at dinurog", at mga fresh eggs with shells na dinurog", ay hindi na ba puede at itapon na lang lahat namin? Ang baluko kasi ay sariwa at linis na at usually ay niluluto at kinakain namin.

Puwede pa gamitin ang mga shell na yan, patuyuin lang ninyo at magagamit sa calcium concoction. Please see Andry's manual on how to extract calcium.

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Misting ba sir ducks? DIba yun dati ginawa nyo po...


duckduck wrote:

Gateway,

Yong mga naunang grow, ay sungkal sila ng sungkal sa DBS area lalo na kung umuulan at malamig.  Halos binabaon nila buong katawan sa IPA.

Kung mainit ang araw, puede naman hose sila dahil puede naman mabasa ang DBS area and concrete floor.

Ang bago naming gawa ng p.i.g.s., ay may PVC pipes na binutasan sa itaas ng concrete flooring at DBS area.  Manual opening parang showers pag mainit ang araw. he he he.

YoUR EyES FaTTEnes YOur AnIMalS!!!!
http://122.2.11.62/snhf/index.php

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gateway wrote:

Misting ba sir ducks? DIba yun dati ginawa nyo po...


duckduck wrote:

Gateway,

Yong mga naunang grow, ay sungkal sila ng sungkal sa DBS area lalo na kung umuulan at malamig.  Halos binabaon nila buong katawan sa IPA.

Kung mainit ang araw, puede naman hose sila dahil puede naman mabasa ang DBS area and concrete floor.

Ang bago naming gawa ng p.i.g.s., ay may PVC pipes na binutasan sa itaas ng concrete flooring at DBS area.  Manual opening parang showers pag mainit ang araw. he he he.

Gateway,

Yong mga naunang P.I.G.S. ay may pool.

Ang 2 bagong P.I.G.S. ay wala ng pools.  Concrete flooring na lang at DBS area na.  Pero nag-improvise kami ng mister or shower sa itaas na gawa sa PVC pipes na binutasan ng electric drill.  May picture ito sa Page 34, Post no. 1009 na testing namin at mukhang OK naman. he he he.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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wintuha wrote:
duckduck wrote:
wintuha wrote:

For your info: sa paggawa ng FPJ ang raw plant na dapat gagamitin ay yung mga talbos or newly developed leaves, kung sa saging yun bilog pa ang dahon, kung kawayan ay yung ubod na ang taas ay mga 3-4 feet, etc. The reason behind this is that the energy and all the nutrients and hormones of the plant are concentrated on the tip or talbos. To facilitate extraction of nutrients and hormones from raw plants during fermentation, alcohol or distilled spirit such as Gin or lambanog is added in the mixture. When diluting molasses to reduce viscosity, I use alcohol ang pang dilute.

For golden kuhol as a source of amino acid, ingat lang sa contamination ng chemical na inispray sa rice field dahil kung gagamitin as part of animal feed mix ay baka malason ang alaga natin na baboy. Ang pangunguha ng kuhol sa ricefield ay dapat before spraying of chemical. As precautionary measure ibinababad ko sa tubig for at least 2 days at every 12 hours ay pinapalitan ng tubig. Yung mga patay na kuhol na lumulutang ay di ko isinasama sa fermentation.



Sir Ross,

Yong nabili naming baluko na replacement ng kuhol, at nabili namin na "malaking kagot na may laman at buhay pa na nilinis namin ang shell at dinurog", at mga fresh eggs with shells na dinurog", ay hindi na ba puede at itapon na lang lahat namin? Ang baluko kasi ay sariwa at linis na at usually ay niluluto at kinakain namin.

Puwede pa gamitin ang mga shell na yan, patuyuin lang ninyo at magagamit sa calcium concoction. Please see Andry's manual on how to extract calcium.

Sir Ross,

Salamat ho sa walang sawang advises at tulong.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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Sir dd, salamat..gagayahin ko yong pagpapakain nyo sa  patabaing baboy, kaya lang wala pang mga dahon dahon..kailangan munang maghanap.

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jojo1 wrote:

Sir dd, salamat..gagayahin ko yong pagpapakain nyo sa  patabaing baboy, kaya lang wala pang mga dahon dahon..kailangan munang maghanap.

Merun ako benta madre de agua plants, rensoni seeds, flamenga at indigopera Pwede padala sa LBC

Adrian 09282857989

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erik_0930 wrote:
jojo1 wrote:

Sir dd, salamat..gagayahin ko yong pagpapakain nyo sa  patabaing baboy, kaya lang wala pang mga dahon dahon..kailangan munang maghanap.

Merun ako benta madre de agua plants, rensoni seeds, flamenga at indigopera Pwede padala sa LBC

Adrian 09282857989

Sir, tinext ko kagabi yong number, walang reply.

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jojo1 wrote:

Sir dd, salamat..gagayahin ko yong pagpapakain nyo sa  patabaing baboy, kaya lang wala pang mga dahon dahon..kailangan munang maghanap.

jojo1,

Pag nakabili ka na kay Erik ng initial supply mo ng sasaring pananim na kinakain ng baboy ay madali na ang magparami.

Mabilis ang shipment via LBC...Halos 1 day lang.

Kami ay agad na madaling nakapagparami at may pumupunta na rin sa amin para bumili. he he he. Lahat nga lang ay pickup nila.

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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Mga Kuyang,

Sharing the pics of the newly arrived (December 1) na mga Hypigs breeders.  Pagod na pagod sila sa biahe from Tarlac to Guinlajon, Sorsogon sa Bicol kaya nagsitulog agad at kahit kaninang madaling araw ay tulog pa rin daw.

OK po ang Hypigs..nagawa nilang magdeliver sa napakalayong lugar na ayaw or hindi kaya ng iba. Magpapadala pa raw ng technician para bisitahin ang mga baboy.

1. GPD Landrace Boar: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00758.jpg

2. GPC Largewhite gilt: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/GPCLargewhitegilt.jpg

3. GP Duroc Boar: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00757.jpg

4. PS gilts inspecting the DBS area: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00768.jpg

5. PS gilts and GPC gilt sleeping agad: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00770.jpg

6. And of course ang magagaling na delivery team ng Hypigs. Pagod na pagod din sila: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00760.jpg

"The man who asks a question is a fool for a minute, the man who does not ask is a fool for life.”  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop.”  "The cautious seldom err. "

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duckduck wrote:

Mga Kuyang,

Sharing the pics of the newly arrived (December 1) na mga Hypigs breeders.  Pagod na pagod sila sa biahe from Tarlac to Guinlajon, Sorsogon sa Bicol kaya nagsitulog agad at kahit kaninang madaling araw ay tulog pa rin daw.

OK po ang Hypigs..nagawa nilang magdeliver sa napakalayong lugar na ayaw or hindi kaya ng iba. Magpapadala pa raw ng technician para bisitahin ang mga baboy.

1. GPD Landrace Boar: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00758.jpg

2. GPC Largewhite gilt: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/GPCLargewhitegilt.jpg

3. GP Duroc Boar: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00757.jpg

4. PS gilts inspecting the DBS area: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00768.jpg

5. PS gilts and GPC gilt sleeping agad: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00770.jpg

6. And of course ang magagaling na delivery team ng Hypigs. Pagod na pagod din sila: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j52/tonyjao/DSC00760.jpg

sir duckduck,
im glad nakarating ng maayos ang mga pigs mo from tarlac.  congrats po and wish you more success in this endeavor. 
maverick