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Sweet Potato leaves (Ipomoea batatas) Talbos ng KAMOTE

Research Findings:

Sweet potato is grown by smallholders as a dual-purpose crop. The vines are fed to livestock and the tubers used for human food. Dry matter production potential per hectare of some cultivars of sweet potato vines can be as high as 4.3 to 6.0 tons/crop and the forage (leaf, petiole and stem) accounts for approximately 64 % of fresh biomass. The forage contains 11 – 17 % crude protein and its digestibility is greater than 62 % (Aregheore, 2004c). It has been reported that as a supplement to low quality roughage, sweet potato vines increases intake and rate of liveweight gain of animals (Aregheore, 2004c). Sweet potato forage could be an important resource as an animal feed in the Pacific Island countries. The value of sweet potato is attributed to high yield, palatability and crude protein content. These characteristics coupled with high moisture content (Orodho et al., 1993) make it a suitable protein supplement for animals receiving low quality forage in the dry season.

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did it mention what animal was fed? baka kasi cattle and not pigs.

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mga sirs,

yeah, sweet potato leaves are being fed to swine.

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anu po yung tinatawag nilang fermented feeds?

“pwede nating pag-usapan ang tungkol sa baboy pero wala sanang baboyan”

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try this link regarding fermented feeds;
http://www.cipav.org.co/lrrd/lrrd17/9/xdun17102.htm
Rick

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Rick,
      thanks for the link

babes_lover

“pwede nating pag-usapan ang tungkol sa baboy pero wala sanang baboyan”

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no problem sir babes, tulong tulong tayo para sa pag unlad nating lahat...
lets continue our research on alternative feeds and i beleived we can save alot pag na practice natin.
Rick

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Madre de Agua (Trichantera Gigantea) Fresh Leaves used as Feeds.

Crude Protein is 20.35%, Calcium=5.0%; Phosphorus = 0.41%. Study shows that if a farmer will have 2 fatteners and plant 15 Madre de Agua legumes and uses the manure of his pigs as fertilizer, then the protein requirement of the 2 fatteners will be met in their whole fattening stage by just giving them fresh Madre de Agua Leaves daily- In a 2 kl/head/day ration.

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maganda po talaga Madre de agua,Ipil-ipil,Sesbania,Camachile I used it as organic feeds for our native pigs, supplemental for our hybred pigs at sa mga goats po namin.We also delute molasses and darak (d1) in their water mas magana po silang kumain at mabilis lumaki.

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sir farmbreed,

san kayo sa pangasinan, san kayo kumukuha ng molasses ? magkano ang molasses diyan ?

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molasses promotes growth of good micro-organism that makes swine to be more resistance to disease.  Also, the taste is good for the swine that urge them to eat more.

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be_barrs wrote:

Madre de Agua (Trichantera Gigantea) Fresh Leaves used as Feeds.

Anu po ba ang local name (tagalog) ng Madre de Agua (Trichantera Gigantea)?
Anu ba ang hitsura nito baka meron lang sa paligid namin di ko lang napapansin at saan ba madami na pwedeng kumuha nito?

Salamat po

babes_lover

“pwede nating pag-usapan ang tungkol sa baboy pero wala sanang baboyan”

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Babes, I'll try to download the Madre de Agua Pictures, I'm sure nakita mo na and mga ito.

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babes_lover, eto yata yng madre de agua -> http://www.tropicalforages.info/key/Forages/Media/Html/Trichanthera_gigantea.htm

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dBrainer wrote:

sir farmbreed,

san kayo sa pangasinan, san kayo kumukuha ng molasses ? magkano ang molasses diyan ?

Sir dBrainer,

Dito po kami sa Bautista, sa Pozurubio kami kumukuha ng molasses, PHP250 small barrel container or P9/kilo. But i think mura din po sa malaseque dati nakakakuha kami ng 5/kilo.

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farmer_want_tobe wrote:

babes_lover, eto yata yng madre de agua -> http://www.tropicalforages.info/key/Forages/Media/Html/Trichanthera_gigantea.htm


farmer_want_tobe,
                         salamat po sa link parang wala pa akong nakikitang ganitong halaman sa area namin...


salamat po uli

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FarmBreed wrote:

dBrainer wrote:

sir farmbreed,

san kayo sa pangasinan, san kayo kumukuha ng molasses ? magkano ang molasses diyan ?

Sir dBrainer,

Dito po kami sa Bautista, sa Pozurubio kami kumukuha ng molasses, PHP250 small barrel container or P9/kilo. But i think mura din po sa malaseque dati nakakakuha kami ng 5/kilo.

Sir farmbreed

Thanks for the info.  baka may mas mura pa kayong sources of molasses just inform me sir.

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if molasses in not available pwede bang lutuin ulit yong brown sugar?
Rick

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you dont have to cook it, just dilute it with hot water.

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thnk you Sir, thats a great help.
Rick

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"molasses" yan din ba yung panutsa yung matamis na dark brown na parang half circle?

parang 10 pesos yata per half sa amin mahal ba?

so tunawin lang sa mainit na tubig din pwede ng ihalo sa pagkain ng baboy? how about ihalo sa inumin pwede ba?

salamat po

“pwede nating pag-usapan ang tungkol sa baboy pero wala sanang baboyan”

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Hello Everyone,

Ask ko lang, wala na ba ibang alternative yung madre de agua, mukhang mhirap hanapin kasi.

Babes_lover,

ano yung current na pinapakain mo sa fatteners mo, pure commercial feeds ba?Or nagmmix ka na rin ng other alternatives for commercial feeds. Advise me nman po.

Thanks,

Rue;

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ruel,
 
Dati puro yung pinapakain ko pero ngayon naghahalo na ako di na talaga kaya ng budget last na bili ko ng feeds last week tumaas na ng 15 pesos so wala talagang choices kahit sa mga medicine kung kaya ng alternative di na ako bumibili tska sinasamahan ko na din ng pag-iingat like walang paligo muna puro walis walis lang etc…..

For info lang (di ko ito nirerecommend baka kasi magkaproblema ka sa mga alaga mo)
1st class na darak ang hinahalo ko sa ngayon,  yung darak may halong durog na bigas
ang ratio 1:1 kung malalaki at matataba at 2:1 kung maliit at payat 2 ang feeds 1 ang darak
Kung sakaling bibili ka ng darak kumuha ka ng sample amuyin mo kung mabango or kung amoy amag
Mabango means bagong kono or giling pag amoy amag stock na either matagal na or di nag FIFO sa appearance dapat pino di dapat magaspang at sa kulay parang medyo ka kulay ng gatas di kulay brown or gray check mo din baka may insekto.

Balak ko din maghalo ng mga crops at plants problema ko lang wala pa akong mga sources ng mga ito tska palagi kasi ako sa work

Ikaw ano ba style mo sa pakain sa mga alaga mo? Dry or wetfeeding ka ba?

Babes_lover

“pwede nating pag-usapan ang tungkol sa baboy pero wala sanang baboyan”

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Babes_lover,

Salamat sa info, we have the same sentiments kc, kulang sa budget, tsaka yung time frame ko ng pgppakain ng commercial feeds is hanggang 3 months lng, kc yun yung nkaproject sa financials ko.Ang gusto ko sana is i-cut ang cost kc malulugi me kapag commercial feeds ippkain ko after 3 months, kung di man lugi, kokonti ang profit ko considering na mababa yung LW price.

Naisip ko na maghalo ng darak, commercial feeds at corn grits, 50% darak, 40% commercial feed at 10% corn grits sana.Ito sana ang ggawin kong finisher, pambigat na lang sana ready for the harvest.

Katulad mo, busy din me sa office kaya wala me time maghanap ng mga ibang sangkap for mixtures.

Dry feeding gingawa ko para hindi msydo matrabaho para sa taga-alaga ko. Mas effective ba pag wet feeding?


Ruel

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ruel,

Sayang nga madaming pwede mapapagkunan na ibang alternative na mga crops ang plants kaya lang walang nagcoconcentrate na pagaralan mabuti ang pagformula nito kung panu at kung gaanu kadami ang amount ang pagmix nito etc….

Dry at wet feeding ako sa mga alaga ko dryfeeding from booster to starter at wetfeeding from grower to finisher. Para macheck mo kung anu ang pagkakaiba sa pagkain ng dry at wet gawin mo yung isang kulungan mo dry pakain mo yung isa wet tapos orasan mo kung sino ang unang makaubos ng pagkain at kung sino ang madami ang nakain obserbahan mo din kung panu kumain ang mga alaga mo sa dry at wet feeding

Pero kung nasanay na yung mga alaga mo sa dry at gusto mong magtry sa wet dapat unti-untiin mo silang turuan sa pagkain ng wet baka kasi manibago di kainin sa simula konti-konti lang ang tubig hanggang masanay pero wag sobra baka di rin kainin

naka feeder ka ba?

babes_lover

“pwede nating pag-usapan ang tungkol sa baboy pero wala sanang baboyan”

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Babes_lover,

Wla pa me feeder sa ngyn, pure pellets lang kc pinakain ko sa mga alaga ko kya simot na simot at wla nssayang, sa tubig wla nman prob kc may drinker sila(dont know tawag dun e)yung automatic na kikagat lng ng baboy at mkkainom na sila para hindi sayang yung tubig.

Yung mixing na ggwin ko is pang-finisher lng sana till harvest time, kc ayoko isacrifice yung weight ng baboy.

May idea ka ba sa pedeng gwing finisher na mix lang bukod sa darak, corn grits, at commercial feeds?

Mas mkkamura kc kpag hinalo yung commercial feeds sa ibang mix.

Ruel

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ruel,
over ripe na saging pero wag bulok try mo bumili sa palengke mura na yun
pwede mong ipakain sa finisher

babes_lover

“pwede nating pag-usapan ang tungkol sa baboy pero wala sanang baboyan”

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cge i'll take that advise, thanks a lot ha? sana may mgshare ng kanilang experiences sa pgmimix para may reference tayo.

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ruel,
     read mo all sir be_barrs post re mixing of feeds or try to contact him madami sya alam.

babes_lover

“pwede nating pag-usapan ang tungkol sa baboy pero wala sanang baboyan”

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thank ulit babes_lover

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Dahon ng Saging pwede mo gamiting snacks ng iyong mga fatteners
Crude Protein nito is 14%, Calcium is 0.6% Phosphorus 0.3 %...

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Hi everyone,

Madre de Aqua  is available at ITCPH compound in Marawoy, Lipa City. Just brought home some stems for planting after I attended the Module 2 on Intensive Training for Pig Husbandry which is very imformative and very useful to start right in Piggery.

Unless you go beyond what you have mastered you will never grow...;)

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Hello Sir be-barrs,

Pede ba ipakain ko sa mga fatteners ko e kangkong? Un kc yung maraming sources sa locality namin, wala msydo dahon ng saging kc. Ano ba mineral content ng kangkong?

Ruel

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Pwede ang kangkong as long na Malinis at hindi ito contaminated. Rich in Fiber ang kangkong than saging kaya mainam ito sa mga fatteners na constipated. Kaya lang pag masyado nang saturated ng kangkong ang isang baboy may tendency ito na magtatae.

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Nutrients in kangkong are Vitamins A and C. It is also rich in minerals, especially iron. Because of its high iron content, the vegetable is recommended  to pigs suffering from anemia.

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Farmbreed,

Me mairerekomenda ka bang one stop shop ng mga ingredient sa paggawa ng feed? balak ko kasing subukan magtimpla ng sarili para makamenos ng gastos,kaso wala akong alam na mapagkukunan ng mga ingredient dyan sa pangasinan. Hope you could assist me with my concerns.

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Duckweed plant is another source of protein for pigs. Its easy to propagate and it helps minimize pigs manure.

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ROYAL STINGRAY wrote:

Hi everyone,

Madre de Aqua  is available at ITCPH compound in Marawoy, Lipa City. Just brought home some stems for planting after I attended the Module 2 on Intensive Training for Pig Husbandry which is very imformative and very useful to start right in Piggery.


Magkanu po ang Madre de Aqua sa ITCPH? Stem po ba binibigay nila or yung tumutubo na (buhay na)

salamat po

“pwede nating pag-usapan ang tungkol sa baboy pero wala sanang baboyan”

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madre de agua can be obtained via the department of agriculture in your area, just ask for their assistance...

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Denkiv wrote:

Farmbreed,

Me mairerekomenda ka bang one stop shop ng mga ingredient sa paggawa ng feed? balak ko kasing subukan magtimpla ng sarili para makamenos ng gastos,kaso wala akong alam na mapagkukunan ng mga ingredient dyan sa pangasinan. Hope you could assist me with my concerns.


Meron po pero hindi ko rin na try but i have friend na may 32 sow level farm at ginagamit nya ung mixture ng feeds na ibinibigay ng Farm by this year ittry po din cguro namin sa farm ung mixture ng Grower Feeds and Stater Feeds nila.Well im not their product indurser but i think it will help you and some folks out there.Sa Pozurubio po sila DCU Farm Corporation owned by Mr. Danny Uy,nag-inquire na po ako and one-stop shop po sila s feed ingredients.Just inquire na lang po sa number na to 075-5624711,very approchables po mga tao dun basta be polite.hehehe.Smin po kasi Pelletized feeds ginagamit namin sa mga Sow namin para mas makasigurado kasi mas vital po ksi condition ng sow.Pero sa mga grow-out mixed nalang as long na maganda ADG at meat quality ng pig namin.

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